organ parts

organ parts
hi all i am looking somewhere that sell organ parts i wanted seagull springs buttons and the threaded rod i have several 20 note hand turned in production but have run out of these i have tried allen pell but he no longer sells these items any suggestons would be greatly received many thanks keith

Hi Keith, Have you tried our very own Nick Williams? Deans? http://www.deanorganbuilders.co.uk/ or Johnny Verbeeck? http://www.j-verbeeck.com/ Regards Robert Washington :org:

I can produce threaded rod in phosphor-bronze of 16-15 swg (1.63-1.83mm) with traditional rolled threads. Regards, John

Hi Keith, Robert is quite correct; I can supply threaded rod of any material and diameter if you are needing any made up. My threading machine should work with most materials and gauges (as long as it's not piano wire!), so feel free to email your requirements. As for buttons, since properly threaded push rods have threads extruded and not cut or tapped in, anything can be used to form the nut. Hard leather is traditional, with plastic being more recent, though personally for new building work I save my stock of reclaimed old leather buttons and make wooden ones from dowel rod cut and drilled in a jig. I've just dug out some photos of these taken months ago whilst making the cello/doppelflute accompaniment off-note chests for my 50kl...

organ parts
Try Mr Pell. Pete

Just ask http://www.alanpell.com/index.html They do all aspects for pipe organs

many thanks for your replys allen pell no longer sell the parts last night i was talking to an organ builder he gave me a place to try for the buttons i just have to find the springs now many thanks on the offers on the threaded bar i dont know what gauge i will need yet till i get the buttons so i will let you know when i can many thanks keith :D

i tried to upload a photo of the type of spring i wanted but i got it wrong will try again some other time keith

Regarding buttons, you should be wary of used leather ones as they tend to perish over time and become weakened. They can begin to turn on the wires of their own accord or disintegrate completely. New ones are best (I can supply) - they are pre-drilled but from experience they will need drilling out to suit your wires otherwise you can tear the skin off your fingers trying to turn them. Plastic buttons are now the trade's preferred type, and are cheaper than leather, but these, too may need drilling out. I can supply these, too. Regards, John

V Springs
Hello Keith, I presume by 'seagull springs' you are referring to the V springs used on the reservoir of Pell organs? If so, I suggest you try John Farmer in Kidderminster at http://www.musicanic.com/Supplies.htm who runs the late Steve Cox's 'Player Piano Supplies UK' business. Although he does not advertise to the mechanical organ world, there is some crossover in materials and he lists among his stock 6" and 8" steel V springs as well as leather and plastic nuts (these are all about half way down the page). I should point out that I have no interests in John's business except as a satisfied customer who has always found him to be very friendly and patient in dealing with my enquiries. Hope this helps you! Jeremy.

"V" springs are also available from Fletcher and Newman, Dartford, and Heckscher & Co, London, both of whom are piano parts suppliers. In fact, any player piano supplier or restorer should have these springs in stock. I used to have a few second hand ones, but none at the moment

"V" springs are also available from Fletcher and Newman, Dartford, and Heckscher & Co, London, both of whom are piano parts suppliers. True Steve, but unfortunately both these companies will only deal with trade customers. I assume the same applies with Kimber-Allen too. I have an account with Fletcher and Newman but had to jump through a lot of hoops to get it. Then they wound down their stock of what I really wanted (hoses and rubbercloth) so I ended up going to John Farmer anyway. Personally, I don't feel it's worth the occasional buyer going to this trouble when they can buy through a third party and let them have the hassles. After all, that's what their mark-up is for! Jeremy.

unfortunately both these companies will only deal with trade customers. I assume the same applies with Kimber-Allen too. I have an acccount with Kimber-Allen, who are trade-only, but any dealings I have had with Fletcher and Newman are on a cash basis - no account needed. I have always visisted their warehouse and simply selected what I wanted. I am willing to act as "dealer" for anyone wishing to obtain parts from K-A, but as you so rightly pointed out Jeremy, there will be a mark-up! Regards, John

I too, like John, have only ever dealt with Fletchers on a cash only basis, for the passed 25 years. And have always found them quite accomodating to one-off customers, especially if they have been recommended by a trade customer. And NO, I don't get a commission!!! How about Cambridge Pianola Company. Or Durrel Armstrongs Player Piano Company in America, if it still exists. Years ago, it was cheaoer buying player spares from them, including the postage, than in this country. Although things may have changed since then.

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