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Jory Bennett- 07-16-2008
Music for Preston's 112 Gavioli
Hi Jake and iMODers! I have a list of all the music that Mr Tiller marked for Chiappa Ltd. In order of production in August 1970 he marked for Mr Flynn for the 112: Old Comrades Stars and Stripes for Ever! Great Little Army Entry of the Gladiators Mr Flynn's ideal organ tune was a march so no surprises there. I've never heard Entry of the Gladiators by Mr Tiller on Preston's 112. Does the tune survive? I know Mr Flynn was one for ripping up books he did not like. I've only ever been treated to the Prinsen arrangement as recorded on tape. In Sept 1970 Mr Tiller made Wellington March. In November 1970 he marked the The New Colonial March and in December he made The Robot (one of his own compositions and very good it is too), and The Last All Clear (another own composition dating from his 1st WW service and vg). Then in April 1971 he marked: On the Quarter Deck (never heard it) Under Freedom's Flag Marche Lorraine (never heard it) In August 1972 the next book he made was "Espana" the concert waltz by Waldteufel based on the themes of Chabrier. He had made this for Dr Miller in the USA on the 110 scale 3 months earlier and the arrangements are very similar. The 110 version of this was recorded not long after on an LP. April 1973 he marked Amparita Roca (Ridewood) having previously made the 89/98 key version in June 1971, again a very similar arrangement. In January 1974 he made his longest book so far for the 112 scale, a selection called "Old Favourites" or as Gary Clarke described it to me "Old Music Hall Favourites". I think this was a pre-published selection with all the links and the order of tunes printed out, but I have never found the score. I suspect it was pubished by Francis, Day and Hunter as all the tunes are their copyright. From that book which was in excess of 30 metres long Mr Flynn took a liking to the tune "We all go the same way home" or as it is sometimes known "Hail, Hail the gang's all here!". This is one of those tunes that has a famous history of copyright infringement as it began life as a chorus in "The Pirates of Penzance" by Arthur Sullivan but a certain American gentleman published it as his own work with different words in Sullivan's lifetime but he was unable to pursue the matter in the courts to his satisfaction due to the differences in copyright law that existed at that time between UK and USA. Mr Tiller marked the verse and then Chiappa Ltd were able to make a seperate song version of the tune using the patterns for the chorus from the selection because Mr Flynn liked it so much. Besides that, Mr Tiller also made The Halleujah Chorus but I believe this was based on old patterns; his last new book for Preston's 112 Gavioi was marked in Sept 1975 "The Grenadiers" Valse Militaire by Emil Waldteufel which was a gift to Mr Flynn from the late Gary Clarke and Raymond Elliott, vice president of the FOPS. I particularly like the long orchestral introduction that he marked in full. Along with the selection, this was the most adventurous thing he made for this scale. Of all these tunes I think the best (if anyone is planning a concert at Pickering this year Jake...mentioning no names) are: Wellington March, Amparita Roca, Old Time Favourites, The Grenadiers Valse and the Halleujah Chorus. What could be better? Besides the above I have a note that he sent two pattern sheets to Chiappa Ltd in Eyre Street, London EC1 of something called "The Call". Does anyone know what this might be? Sounds like the title of a fanfare or may be it was a musical joke between Mr Tiller and Mr Flynn. Or just simply 2 -*test*-('") patterns of another march that was not proceeded with.

Adam Ramet- 07-16-2008

Hi Jory, There is a YouTube clip of this organ playing Entry of Gladiators here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYIi02kWBw I have the FD&H sheet music selection Old Music Hall Favourites in my collection if you would like a copy some time. It's got all the words in there also. From recollection it's an FD&H Pether arrangment done in the 30s. It's the same very long selection as is on the Wellington NZ Decap-Mortier owned by Jim Harper and Michael Woolf : chunks from the book can be heard here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI0pDV6OT2A regards Adam

Jory Bennett- 07-16-2008

Yes...that's the Prinsen version I mentioned. What happened to the Tiller version, I wonder? I would be interested to see the sheet music you mention for the selection of old songs.

Robert Washington- 07-17-2008

Amparita Roca is superb, Mr Tiller really pulled out the stops (metaphorically speaking) on that one! I've heard the 89/98 version many times, but the 110/112 version definitely has the edge. By the way I didn't know 'The Last All Clear' was a Tiller composition, its brilliant! Regards Robert :org:

Jake Preston- 07-17-2008

Entry of the Gladiators By James Tiler is still with the organ, with no front page, Old time favourites is just amazing, Amparito Roca was the best book I have found on the organ this year, and I shall go play the robot some time soon. I will most happily take all the 112 Key Chiappa books down to pickering, If you would like to hear any, just find me/peter. And Il see what i can do about a Chiappa recital for you.

Jory Bennett- 07-17-2008

Brilliant news, Jake! I better get myself to Pickering this year in that case.

Carl Plastow- 07-18-2008

Jake do you ever get to play any of the large pile of 110 key music,I have about 3 hours of these recorded at Mr Flynns in the late '70s,the best being Belle of New York,Dreamy Araby.and Martial Moments plus the overture @Cloches de Corneville. Maybe Imod Members could be treated to an 110 key recital at the premises one day ...

Jake Preston- 07-18-2008

well, I do have a obseesion, with making my way down to the oeigional music store, and playing some Marenghi/Gaudin/and another type i cant remember the name of. The best time to hear some original books, is to pop along to AGMs held at our place, or if any one would like to bring a party over here, the best way to get it organised is via Richard, and he would be more than happy to arrange something

Jory Bennett- 07-24-2008

I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I would much prefer to hear the organ play its old original library from showland days.

petergriffiths- 07-25-2008

Hi there Jory Unfortunately there seems to be no 112 keyless Gavioli music available, and the original music that went with that particular organ in its showland days has long gone. There was originally a stack of 112 keyless Gavioli music from another 112 keyless organ, but the stack of music has vanished. This is a great pity, as the scale could have been properly checked out. The scale that the organ now uses was worked out from 1 old book of music, and tranferred to a keyed scale. It is not certain that this scale is truly accurate. One book of music from a scale this big cannot give all the detail, and more information has come to light since the transcription was worked on. Does anybody know what happened to that stack of music? Peter Griffiths

Jory Bennett- 07-27-2008

As I said at the beginning, old 112-keyless music is very rare. There may be less than 12 books surviving most of which found its way to George Flynn who I assume had the opportunity to study it before he came up with his own version of the scale. I also assume this music went with the organ when he sold it to the Prestons in the early 1980s. For those eager to know what these books sounded like, the tune "Sister Susie is sowing shirts for sailors" on the 112 "new" keyed scale is a direct transcript by Andrew Pilmer of the 112 keyless arrangement from the early 1900s. There are one or two other books and scraps of books elsewhere in other collections, but I don't think I should name these sources without their consent on a public measgeboard. Not all the books were by Gavioli, some were by Marenghi-Gaudin.

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